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Master Of Disharmony · Jul 12, 2005, 03:17 PM // 15:17

Best i guess is the Gladiator Armor.

"PIG" Platemail or the 15k Armor

85 Armor + 10 vs . phis. attacks = 95

Gladiator

80 Armor + 20 vs . phis. attacks = 100 ( + 5

)

Then put some Runes voila. Gladiator may look "diffrent", but gain 8 + Energy(blue). So with a Shield :

Platemail max MANA 20

Gladiatorl max MANA 28

Del12 · Jul 12, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

I prefer Gladiator armor as well, but why oh why did they make it look sooo gay.

smitty-gw · Jul 12, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Gladiator armor looks so bad, I just won't wear it.

ICURADik · Jul 12, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

I still like dragon for the chest/head. Most lightning/fire spells hit these two areas 90% of the time. Legs/Gloves get Gladiators, and Feet get Knights.

MadeInChina · Jul 12, 2005, 05:59 PM // 17:59

After reading many of your posts Ensign, I wanted to ask where you would get stoneskin gauntlets and what are its attributes? I agree with all the armor you listed, excluding the fact that I do not know what stoneskin gauntlets are.

Ensign · Jul 12, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Stoneskin (Stonefist? They changed the name before and might have again) are 75 + 20 AL gauntlets that add a second to knockdowns without specified knockdown durations. This includes everything from Devastating Hammer to Bull's Strike to Shock. As all you give up for it is 5 AL on a 1/8 hit chance area, it's a complete no-brainer if you use any knockdown skills.

I would assume you could craft a pair in Droknar's Forge.

Peace,
-Cxe

Kashrlyyk · Jul 13, 2005, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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Originally Posted by Dzan

147 is about what I would expect a guy with 16 air magic to do to an armor 60 guy. Remember it has 25% armor penetration.

A lvl 17 smoke phantom shouldn??t have 16 points in air. My guild mate had an AL of 30 everywhere and was hit for exactly the same damage!!!

hydrak · Jul 14, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinkim

Platemail offers 85 armour and 10armour vs physical attack

Gladitor offers 80 armour and 20 armour vs physical attack

An the fact that you get attacked physical than with magic wouldnt the gladitor armour over 100 in total and platemail only 95?

Where did you get this fact?

Jenosavel · Jul 14, 2005, 12:24 PM // 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

A lvl 17 smoke phantom shouldn??t have 16 points in air. My guild mate had an AL of 30 everywhere and was hit for exactly the same damage!!!

1. As someone already mentioned, while it was true at one point that spells only hit the chest, a patch has changed that. I can't say exactly when that one came out, but I read the updates religiously and remember it quite clearly.

2. You'd be surprised how 1-sided the enemy attributes are often stacked. An attribute of 16 on an enemy while your (assuming it's balanced with 3/4 diff attributes) character is still dreaming of a 12 isn't uncommon. I notice this most with the elementalists and mesmer, probably because I myself stack attributes heavily when playing those classes and often the enemies far surpass my damage output at the same level. It's particularly telling with mesmers, as they have a lot of armor ignoring skills (in other cases, and uneven armor level might be the cause of uneven damage).

Maxiemonster · Jul 14, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

For the seven billionth time, Gladiator's everything with Knight's Boots, the attribute helm of your choice, and Stoneskin Gauntlets if applicible. That is the unconditional best armor in the game, and the only reason not to run that is for looks.

Peace,
-CxE

Indeed, that's what I carry, that's what you should carry. If you care that much about the looks, buy the FOW armor

The only way to look descend again.

quanzong · Jul 14, 2005, 01:11 PM // 13:11

Gladiator was my favorite armor, but since I everyone thinks too much of man bras, I personally dont think its a bra, I think of it more as a battle vest.
Gladiator armor is best for stats, but im kind of 75% cools and 25% stats, so I would go with PLATEMAIL ARMOR!

noblepaladin · Jul 14, 2005, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Ideally you would want your damage absorb armor (Ascalon or Knights) to be in the area that gets struck the least since Knights/Ascalon has less armor than Gladiators/Platemail. These two areas are the gauntlets and the boots. If you are using the Stone gauntlets for knockdown, the best place is the boots (personally I find that knights boots look ok with any armor, so I always use the boots rather than gauntlets).

For physical:
Platemail = 95
Gladiators = 100

For elemental:
Platemale = 85
Gladiators = 80

So clearly the armor difference is just moving 5 armor around, although you should note that because of diminishing returns 85/95 is slightly better than 80/100. Ideally 90/90 spread would be the best because that would get the most effect out of the diminishing returns. However, Gladiators does give you a lot more mana and that one extra spell will usually erase any small difference there is (wheter it is because you kill the opponent one hit faster or you heal yourself, etc). However, there are never any absolutes. If you know you will be facing massive elemental damage, platemail will be better. If you are fighting melee (i.e. most PvE situations) then undoubtly Gladiators with either knights gauntlets/boots is best.

Unfortunately, this means that if you made a male warrior you have to wear what I have heard several players complain "a bra". Since Fissure looks the same regardless of what type it is, I guess you can mix and match without look too awkward (unfortunately thats millions of gold).

Jul 12, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#26
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	Stoneskin (Stonefist? They changed the name before and might have again) are 75 + 20 AL gauntlets that add a second to knockdowns without specified knockdown durations. This includes everything from Devastating Hammer to Bull's Strike to Shock. As all you give up for it is 5 AL on a 1/8 hit chance area, it's a complete no-brainer if you use any knockdown skills. I would assume you could craft a pair in Droknar's Forge. Peace, -Cxe __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Jul 12, 2005, 03:17 PM // 15:17	#21
Master Of Disharmony Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Europe Guild: Save Imperium Profession: W/N	Best i guess is the Gladiator Armor. "PIG" Platemail or the 15k Armor 85 Armor + 10 vs . phis. attacks = 95 Gladiator 80 Armor + 20 vs . phis. attacks = 100 ( + 5 ) Then put some Runes voila. Gladiator may look "diffrent", but gain 8 + Energy(blue). So with a Shield : Platemail max MANA 20 Gladiatorl max MANA 28

Jul 12, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17	#22
Del12 Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	I prefer Gladiator armor as well, but why oh why did they make it look sooo gay.

Jul 12, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28	#23
smitty-gw Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York	Gladiator armor looks so bad, I just won't wear it.

Jul 12, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#24
ICURADik Banned Join Date: May 2005	I still like dragon for the chest/head. Most lightning/fire spells hit these two areas 90% of the time. Legs/Gloves get Gladiators, and Feet get Knights.

Jul 12, 2005, 05:59 PM // 17:59	#25
MadeInChina Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Maryland, USA Guild: GNYU Profession: W/E	After reading many of your posts Ensign, I wanted to ask where you would get stoneskin gauntlets and what are its attributes? I agree with all the armor you listed, excluding the fact that I do not know what stoneskin gauntlets are.

Jul 14, 2005, 01:11 PM // 13:11	#31
quanzong Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere cold Guild: The Followers of the Messiah Profession: W/Me	Gladiator was my favorite armor, but since I everyone thinks too much of man bras, I personally dont think its a bra, I think of it more as a battle vest. Gladiator armor is best for stats, but im kind of 75% cools and 25% stats, so I would go with PLATEMAIL ARMOR!

Jul 14, 2005, 02:25 PM // 14:25	#32
noblepaladin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005	Ideally you would want your damage absorb armor (Ascalon or Knights) to be in the area that gets struck the least since Knights/Ascalon has less armor than Gladiators/Platemail. These two areas are the gauntlets and the boots. If you are using the Stone gauntlets for knockdown, the best place is the boots (personally I find that knights boots look ok with any armor, so I always use the boots rather than gauntlets). For physical: Platemail = 95 Gladiators = 100 For elemental: Platemale = 85 Gladiators = 80 So clearly the armor difference is just moving 5 armor around, although you should note that because of diminishing returns 85/95 is slightly better than 80/100. Ideally 90/90 spread would be the best because that would get the most effect out of the diminishing returns. However, Gladiators does give you a lot more mana and that one extra spell will usually erase any small difference there is (wheter it is because you kill the opponent one hit faster or you heal yourself, etc). However, there are never any absolutes. If you know you will be facing massive elemental damage, platemail will be better. If you are fighting melee (i.e. most PvE situations) then undoubtly Gladiators with either knights gauntlets/boots is best. Unfortunately, this means that if you made a male warrior you have to wear what I have heard several players complain "a bra". Since Fissure looks the same regardless of what type it is, I guess you can mix and match without look too awkward (unfortunately thats millions of gold).